{"id":20234,"date":"2023-02-09T14:28:39","date_gmt":"2023-02-09T19:28:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dharma.org\/?p=20234"},"modified":"2023-02-09T14:49:59","modified_gmt":"2023-02-09T19:49:59","slug":"recovery-sangha-qa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dharma.org\/recovery-sangha-qa\/","title":{"rendered":"Insight Recovery Sangha: A Q&#038;A with Co-Leads Walt Opie and Dalila Bothwell"},"content":{"rendered":"<h6><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Walt Opie and Dalila Bothwell are co-leading IMS\u2019s newly-created Insight Recovery Sangha. This monthly online sangha is for anyone (self-identified) who is working with strong cravings or addictions. The program centers around craving, how it causes suffering, and how cultivating insight into the nature of craving can greatly ease suffering. It aims to develop a community of people who share personal experience and insight around recovery, though it is not based on any specific recovery program. The meetings include dharma talks related to Buddhist teachings and recovery, meditation, and sharing in community.<\/span><\/h6>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ims.dharma.org\/courses\/insight-recovery-sangha-february-2023\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Register for the Insight Recovery Sangha here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Walt Opie <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is a graduate of IMS\u2019s Teacher Training Program and Spirit Rock\u2019s Community Dharma Leaders program. He teaches at centers around the US, including Sacramento Insight Meditation, Cambridge Insight Meditation, New York Insight Meditation, Spirit Rock, and IMS. He has been leading sitting groups for people in recovery for many years and has served as a volunteer teacher in several California prisons. Walt has been in recovery for more than three decades. For more information on Walt, please <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.waltopie.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">visit his website.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Dalila Bothwell<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is a graduate of Spirit Rock\u2019s Community Dharma Leaders program. She is a meditation coach and mentor with Ten Percent Happier and Sounds True\u2019s Mindfulness Meditation Teacher Certification Program with Jack Kornfield and Tara Brach and their Power of Awareness program. For nearly a decade, she led practice groups and served as a director for New York Insight Meditation Center. Dalila has been in recovery for more than 15 years. For more information on Dalila, please <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dalilabothwell.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">visit her website.<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here, Walt and Dalila speak with IMS Staff Writer Raquel Baetz about how the Insight Recovery Sangha came into being, the importance of sangha for anyone working with strong cravings or addictions, and their hopes for this community.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>How did the idea for a recovery sangha come into being?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Walt: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I led a half-day program with IMS Online called Freedom from Craving and there was a lot of passionate interest in the topic. People had a lot of questions and it felt like there was a huge need there. We followed that up with a weekend retreat on the same topic which was also well attended. And then most recently, I led an online program with Dr. Jud Brewer, author of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Craving Mind: From Cigarettes to Smartphones to Love\u2014Why We Get Hooked and How We Can Break Bad Habits, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and that was well received, too.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">People suffering with addictions or strong cravings of whatever kind\u2014and I\u2019m one of them\u2014tend to need ongoing support. Having programs every now and then started to feel like it wasn\u2019t enough to fully support this community. An ongoing monthly sangha made sense and doing it online makes it accessible to many more people, including those in the general recovery community.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>How did you come to be involved with the Insight Recovery Sangha?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Dalila: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I left New York, IMS Guiding Teacher DaRa Williams asked me to be administrative support for the IMS Teacher Training Program, which is how I met Walt. And then last summer, I was on retreat at Spirit Rock with DaRa, Joseph Goldstein, Kamala Masters, Nakawe Cuebas Berrios, and Walt. That\u2019s when he told me about the idea for the recovery sangha and here we are.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>How do recovery and the Dharma work together?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Walt: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I&#8217;ve been in recovery from alcohol and drugs for 35 years, but it doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t have cravings anymore. I don\u2019t crave those things anymore, but I have other cravings, for example, for sugar. There&#8217;s always something. It&#8217;s like my system is built for craving, and if it&#8217;s not going to have one thing, it\u2019s going to want something else. So, I have to keep working on it. And for me, mindfulness and meditation have been so helpful in quelling these cravings and giving me powerful tools to work with them. But I need constant reminders\u2014like we all do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Dalila: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With 12-Step programs, there&#8217;s a lot of talk about God and a higher power. And many people don\u2019t resonate with that language. It&#8217;s suggested that we find a God or higher power of our own understanding. For me, finding a way to a higher power\u2014which is really a way out of myself that&#8217;s loving and caring\u2014was through the Dharma. Having those teachings of the Buddha available as part of my higher power makeup was\u2014and is\u2014invaluable.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For me, it\u2019s about opening folks\u2019 minds up for exploration, \u201cWhat does this all mean?\u201d Recovery and the Dharma are complementary paths. The Dharma allowed me to have more spaciousness and discernment about what was important for me and my recovery. For me, both my recovery and my Dharma practices are about liberation and freedom.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Why is community important for people dealing with strong cravings or addictions?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Walt: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We all benefit from having sangha or regular community. With this community, it\u2019s people working with the same types of issues, so we can relate to each other. We can share wisdom and compassion because we understand the suffering that fellow participants may be experiencing. Plus, cravings don&#8217;t just go away. We talk about uprooting craving, but that doesn&#8217;t happen until you experience full enlightenment. In the meantime, we&#8217;re stuck working with cravings in different ways.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Dalila: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Community is so big because we can&#8217;t do anything alone. We live in this very individualistic society and culture. This bootstrap culture; pull yourself up. But we don&#8217;t just pop out of nowhere. We need models to demonstrate what to do and not to do. Models who speak the same language and are headed in the same direction. I need folks who can model radical honesty and vulnerability. When we are in community, we have that feedback of how to be human and that\u2019s valuable information.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In sangha, I get to practice being honest with someone other than myself. We need other human beings to offer validation, correction, or feedback.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Who is this sangha appropriate for?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Dalila: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s for anyone who wants to investigate the craving in their life. Sandra Weinberg [from New York Insight Meditation Center\u2019s Buddha &amp; Bill W. Sangha] talks about one of her teachers talking about our addiction to me, myself, and I. It\u2019s the attachment, the craving to self. That attachment to me, myself, and I can play out through substance abuse or codependency, or it could play out through being attached to our mobile devices or shutting down emotionally. This sangha is for anyone who wants to investigate those cravings.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think most of the people will be in recovery of some sort, but it\u2019s not a 12-Step sangha. It\u2019s for people who have noticed that profound craving in our lives can create profound suffering.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Walt: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Generally, it\u2019s for people already in recovery from some type of addiction or addictive behavior. It\u2019s also for people who are curious about moving in that direction. And it\u2019s for people who may not identify as being addicted to something, but who may feel as though craving is out of control in their lives and are trying to figure out how to come to terms with it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We want people to self-identify. We\u2019re not going to exclude anybody. We\u2019re all human. And as some teachers say, we&#8217;re all addicted to thinking. So, people can come with a lot of different cravings or addictions that they are working with.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>What are your hopes for this program?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Dalila: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m hopeful that there\u2019s connection in the community and a little bit more freedom in people&#8217;s lives. It doesn\u2019t have to be a profound Hallelujah moment, but maybe some small \u201cah has\u201d that will stick with folks or maybe plant some seeds around liberation, ease, and freedom.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Walt:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I hope that we can build a supportive, caring community of folks who can benefit from focusing on this topic. And a respectful community of folks who allow everyone to be fully themselves. We may feel when we&#8217;re in a regular sangha that there&#8217;s a part of us that&#8217;s not fully included in certain ways, maybe because the issue we might be dealing with isn&#8217;t necessarily relevant to everybody there, and everybody there may not fully understand our suffering. So, we really want to build a community of people who have suffered in similar ways and can relate to each other in supporting one another.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Is there anything else that you&#8217;d like people to know?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Walt: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I used to lead a group that was inspired by the work of Kevin Griffin, author of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One Breath at a Time, Buddhism and the 12 Steps.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> So that had been my focus for a while. And anybody from the 12-Step world would be most welcome in this sangha. But, at the same time, we&#8217;re not going to specifically spend a lot of time addressing the 12 Steps. We really want this sangha to be open to people beyond the 12-Step recovery world, but any experience with the 12 Steps would also be welcome.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The only thing I would caution people about is that we could get into some serious topics. For example, we may talk about life and death because it really is that way for me and for many people.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Walt Opie and Dalila Bothwell are co-leading IMS\u2019s newly-created Insight Recovery Sangha. This monthly online sangha is for anyone (self-identified) who is working with strong cravings or addictions. The program centers around craving, how it causes suffering, and how cultivating insight into the nature of craving can greatly ease suffering. 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